{"id":6982,"date":"2019-04-20T20:51:39","date_gmt":"2019-04-21T03:51:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/?p=6982"},"modified":"2019-04-21T01:49:54","modified_gmt":"2019-04-21T08:49:54","slug":"post2-46","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/?p=6982","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Columbine teacher can still hear the gunfire 20 years later&#8221;, CBS This Morning"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Barry Petersen, April 20, 2019<\/p>\n<p>What many consider America&#8217;s first mass school shooting took place in the community of Littleton, Colorado, 20 years ago today. Two Columbine High School seniors killed 12 fellow students and a teacher, possibly setting the stage for the school shootings that haunt us to this very day.<\/p>\n<p>For Kiki Leyba, who was in his first year of teaching and survived that day, there is no way to forget.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I can see the silhouette of a gunman holding a long rifle. But I can also hear gunfire,&#8221; Leyba told CBS News&#8217; Barry Petersen.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/columbine-shooting-anniversary-survivors-and-loved-ones-note-to-self\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\">20 years on, Columbine survivors and victim&#8217;s father offer words of encouragement to their younger selves<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/columbine-shooting-anniversary-how-high-school-massacre-changed-police-response\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\">How Columbine forever changed the way we respond to active shooters<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Leyba is still teaching at Columbine today, and when you talk to him you wonder: was it 20 years ago or just yesterday?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Trauma has a memory,&#8221; Leyba said, adding, &#8220;we can feel it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Students still walk those same halls learning English and math and &#8212; these days &#8212; how to survive an active shooter.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What was left behind in all of those years after Columbine and we just moved on?&#8221; Petersen asked.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Trying to heal, whatever that looks like,&#8221; Leyba said. &#8220;There&#8217;s always the push to move forward, which drives me crazy. The largest group is that non-physically wounded, traumatized population. And then also the families that get lost in that as well.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>After the<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/feature\/elementary-school-rampage\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\"> 2012 murders <\/a>at Sandy Hook Elementary School, their staff asked Kiki to come and share his insights and his memories.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;To see it on their faces, in their eyes, was so difficult,&#8221; Leyba said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But when you spoke with those people and they saw that you were on the \u2013 I wouldn&#8217;t say on the other side \u2013 but on the mending part of this, did that help?&#8221; Petersen said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yes, I think it&#8217;s a really important part of that healing, to have that opportunity to meet with somebody or talk to somebody who can relate to your experience,&#8221; Leyba said.<\/p>\n<p>Steve Siegel agrees. He was a victims&#8217; advocate for the Denver district attorney. &#8220;They&#8217;re going through a time where their wounds have been ripped open,&#8221; Siegel said. &#8220;It&#8217;s flooding back.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Leyba&#8217;s memories include a newspaper from the day after, with a headline that reads, simply, &#8220;heartbreak.&#8221; He said at the time he had no idea how big or life-changing it would be.<\/p>\n<p>He believes we need to continue the dialogue about what happened that day \u2013 even if it&#8217;s painful.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The memories. I mean, that&#8217;s part of it. I mean, it&#8217;s a packaged deal when it comes down to, you know, these mass shootings, school shootings. You&#8217;re inevitably, you&#8217;re gonna be dealing with that. And it&#8217;s part of what we have to deal with until something changes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Remembrance services in Littleton on Saturday are expected to draw a huge crowd of students, friends and survivors. It will be a tribute to the victims from Columbine. Many \u2013 like Leyba \u2013 may wonder: How many more of these before something changes?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/columbine-shooting-anniversary-teacher-on-the-pain-and-importance-of-remembering\/\">CBS This Morning<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Barry Petersen, April 20, 2019 What many consider America&#8217;s first mass school shooting took place in the community of Littleton, Colorado, 20 years ago today. Two Columbine High School seniors killed 12 fellow students and a teacher, possibly setting the stage for the school shootings that haunt us to this very day. 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