{"id":8576,"date":"2019-11-02T07:38:28","date_gmt":"2019-11-02T14:38:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/?p=8576"},"modified":"2019-11-02T07:38:28","modified_gmt":"2019-11-02T14:38:28","slug":"the-whimpering-terrorist-only-trump-seems-to-have-heard-the-new-york-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/?p=8576","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The \u2018Whimpering\u2019 Terrorist Only Trump Seems to Have Heard&#8221;, The New York Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <span class=\"css-1baulvz\">Peter Baker<\/span> and <span class=\"css-1baulvz last-byline\">Eric Schmitt, White Hose Memo, Nov. 1. 2019<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>President Trump offered a vivid account of the ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi \u201ccrying and screaming\u201d in the final minutes before his death. The only problem: No one else knows what he\u2019s talking about.<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">WASHINGTON \u2014 It was a vivid scene worthy of the ending of a Hollywood thriller, the image of a ruthless terrorist mastermind finally brought to justice <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/10\/27\/us\/politics\/isis-leader-al-baghdadi-dead.html?module=inline\">\u201cwhimpering and crying and screaming all the way\u201d<\/a> to his death. But it may be no more true than a movie script.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">In the days since President Trump gave the world a graphic account of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi\u2019s last minutes, no evidence has emerged to confirm it. The secretary of defense, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the regional commander who oversaw the operation that killed the leader of the Islamic State all say <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/10\/28\/world\/middleeast\/trump-baghdadi-whimpering.html?action=click&amp;module=inline&amp;pgtype=Article\">they have no idea<\/a> what the president was talking about.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Four other Defense Department officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to share details of the raid, said they had seen no after-action reports, situation reports or other communications that support Mr. Trump\u2019s claim. Nor did they have any indication that Mr. Trump spoke with any of the Delta Force commandos or ground commanders in the hours between the Saturday night raid and his Sunday morning televised announcement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">One American official who was deeply familiar with the operation dismissed the president\u2019s version of events as mere grandstanding. Another senior official briefed extensively on the mission said, \u201cI don\u2019t know how he would know that. It sounds like something he made up.\u201d The surveillance drone video Mr. Trump watched in the Situation Room <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/10\/27\/world\/middleeast\/trump-baghdadi-video-raid.html?action=click&amp;module=inline&amp;pgtype=Article\">had no live audio<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"story-ad-1-wrapper\" class=\"css-1r07izm\">\n<div id=\"story-ad-1-slug\" class=\"css-l9onyx\">\n<p>The White House, for its part, has provided neither corroboration nor explanation of the president\u2019s account. Stephanie Grisham, the White House press secretary, dismissed \u201ctrying to pick apart the details of the death\u201d of the leader of the Islamic State. \u201cIs it not possible to just celebrate that a terrorist, murderer and rapist has been killed?\u201d she asked in an email.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Pressed on where Mr. Trump got the details he shared on national television, she said, \u201cwe are not going to get into any of the operational details of how the president receives information.\u201d Asked if his account was true, she did not respond.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">That Mr. Trump seems to have made up the scene of a whimpering terrorist may be shocking on one level yet not all that surprising from a president who over the years has made a habit of inventing people who do not exist and events that did not happen. Mr. Trump\u2019s flexibility with fact has become such an established feature of his presidency that polls show most Americans, including even many of his own supporters, do not, as a rule, take him at his word.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">What may be most telling about the episode is how little attention the disparity of details received. In the past, presidential words were scrutinized with forensic exactitude and any variance from the established record could do lasting political damage. In the era of Trumpian truth, misstatements and lies are washed away by the next story, prompting Pinocchios from fact checkers and scolding from Democrats and Never Trumpers while Republicans dismiss them with that\u2019s-just-Trump-being-Trump weariness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cDonald Trump is not simply a serial liar; he is attempting to murder the very idea of truth, which is even worse,\u201d said Peter Wehner, a former strategic adviser to President George W. Bush and an outspoken critic of Mr. Trump. \u201cBecause without truth, a free society cannot operate.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"story-ad-5-wrapper\" class=\"css-2ninbb\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Mark K. Updegrove, a presidential historian who wrote a book about Mr. Bush and his father, President George Bush, said neither of those commanders in chief nor President Barack Obama would have been so loose with the truth about so momentous an occasion. Events like the killing of Osama bin Laden, he said, were treated with solemnity and restraint.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cIn the days of reality television, humility is not enough,\u201d said Mr. Updegrove, who is also president and chief executive of the Lyndon B. Johnson Foundation in Austin. Mr. Trump, the reality television veteran, \u201chas to continue to add to the inherent drama of the moment, not only bragging about the despot being brought to justice but happening in the most humiliating way. He can\u2019t help himself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">It is certainly true that there was no mourning Mr. al-Baghdadi\u2019s death in Washington. During his five-year reign, the Islamic State proved itself one of the most brutal terrorist organizations on the planet, establishing a murderous rule over millions while beheading and raping captured Americans.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Nor did anyone argue with the characterization of Mr. al-Baghdadi as a coward after he detonated a suicide vest with children nearby on Sunday, killing them along with himself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">But that was apparently not enough for Mr. Trump. In his announcement and subsequent question and answer session, he used the word \u201cwhimpering\u201d six times, \u201ccrying\u201d five times and \u201cscreaming\u201d four times.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Mr. Trump\u2019s account, aspects of which he repeated Friday evening at a rally in Tupelo, Miss., has left four-star generals in the awkward position of not confirming assertions they do not know to be true while trying not to contradict the president too overtly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, both said they had not been told of such details, but allowed that it was possible the president had spoken with commandos involved in the operation \u2014 without explaining how that would have happened without the top civilian and military leaders of the Pentagon knowing about it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., the head of the United States Central Command who oversaw the operation in Syria, said Mr. al-Baghdadi\u2019s last act of killing children along with himself spoke for itself. \u201cYou can deduce what kind of person it is based on that activity,\u201d he told reporters this week.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">But as for the whimpering and crying, \u201cI\u2019m not able to confirm anything else about his last seconds. I just can\u2019t confirm that one way or another,\u201d General McKenzie added. In fact, he said, \u201cwe believe Baghdadi actually may have fired from his hole in his last moments.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Mr. Trump has always had an active imagination, on matters large and small. While in business, he called reporters <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/the-fix\/wp\/2016\/03\/21\/the-amazing-story-of-donald-trumps-old-spokesman-john-barron-who-was-actually-donald-trump-himself\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">pretending to be a Trump spokesman named John Barron<\/a> boasting about Mr. Trump in the third person. For years, he <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/09\/17\/us\/politics\/donald-trump-obama-birther.html?module=inline\">peddled the lie that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya<\/a> instead of Hawaii and he claimed to see \u201cthousands and thousands\u201d of Muslims in New Jersey cheering the fall of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2015\/11\/25\/nyregion\/a-definitive-debunking-of-donald-trumps-9-11-claims.html?module=inline\">a claim that was thoroughly debunked<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Mr. Trump has long cited <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/e18f254c4ac84e6bab4ceed56401cc65\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a friend named \u201cJim\u201d<\/a> who supposedly told him about the decline of Paris, but news organizations have <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/magazine\/2017\/03\/13\/who-is-trumps-friend-jim\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">failed to ever establish Jim\u2019s existence<\/a>. While president, Mr. Trump boasted that the chief of the Boy Scouts called him to praise his speech to its jamboree and asserted that the president of Mexico called to inform him about Mr. Trump\u2019s successful border enforcement. The White House eventually admitted that <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/08\/02\/us\/politics\/those-calls-to-trump-white-house-admits-they-didnt-happen.html?module=inline\">neither call took place<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Mr. Trump\u2019s misadventures with the truth have been tabulated by The Washington Post, which has counted <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/2019\/10\/14\/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">more than 13,000 false or misleading statements<\/a> since he took office. The public is no longer surprised. In March,<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/polling.reuters.com\/#!response\/TM1133Y17\/type\/smallest\/dates\/20190201-20190409\/collapsed\/true\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> just 19 percent of Americans said Mr. Trump always tells the truth<\/a>, according to a Reuters poll, while 40 percent said he tells the truth only sometimes and 41 percent said he never tells the truth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">That means that many of his own supporters agree that he sometimes lies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">The desire to portray Mr. al-Baghdadi in humiliating terms may stem from genuine disgust with a terrorist responsible for the deaths of so many during his five-year terror spree, including Americans <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/08\/20\/world\/middleeast\/isis-james-foley-syria-execution.html?module=inline\">James Foley<\/a>, <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/09\/04\/world\/middleeast\/steven-sotloff-isis-execution.html?module=inline\">Steven Sotloff,<\/a> <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/11\/17\/world\/middleeast\/peter-kassig-isis-video-execution.html?module=inline\">Peter Kassig<\/a> and <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2015\/08\/15\/world\/middleeast\/isis-held-us-aid-worker-as-sex-slave-before-death.html?module=inline\">Kayla Mueller<\/a>. Mr. Trump made the point that no one should consider Mr. al-Baghdadi a hero, which is a point certainly every American official and counterterrorism expert would agree with.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Juliette Kayyem, a former assistant secretary of Homeland Security under Mr. Obama, said the president\u2019s taunting descriptions of Mr. al-Baghdadi may not create the backlash some national security experts fear because there was no real cult surrounding the Islamic State leader that would be further radicalized.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cThe real consequence,\u201d she said, \u201cis that because it is clearly a lie, it breeds conspiracy theories or undermines the success of the mission.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cIn other words, the impact of his gloating is more harmful to us,\u201d she added, \u201cand takes a winning moment that our allies needed and our enemies should fear and turns it into\u201d a question of credibility.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">And it has resulted in an unwanted headache at a Pentagon that would rather focus on the success of a mission that took the most-wanted terrorist in the world out of action. Asked this week if senior defense officials and military commanders wished the whole issue would just go away, one senior official sighed and said, \u201cYes, yes.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1soubk3 epkadsg3\">\n<div class=\"css-15g2oxy epkadsg2\">\n<div class=\"css-2b3w4o e16ij5yr6\">\n<div class=\"css-i9gxme e16ij5yr4\">\n<div class=\"css-1j8dw05 e16ij5yr2\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">Pentagon Can\u2019t Confirm al-Baghdadi \u2018Whimpering\u2019<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"><time class=\"css-x7rtpa e16638kd0\" datetime=\"2019-10-28T18:51:31-04:00\">Oct. 28, 2019<\/time><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1vm5oi9 e16ij5yr0\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"css-32rbo2 e16ij5yr1\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2019\/10\/28\/us\/politics\/28dc-milley\/28dc-milley-threeByTwoSmallAt2X.jpg\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-2b3w4o e16ij5yr6\">\n<div class=\"css-i9gxme e16ij5yr4\">\n<div class=\"css-1j8dw05 e16ij5yr2\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">ISIS Leader al-Baghdadi Is Dead, Trump Says<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"><time class=\"css-x7rtpa e16638kd0\" datetime=\"2019-10-27T09:25:12-04:00\">Oct. 27, 2019<\/time><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1vm5oi9 e16ij5yr0\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"css-32rbo2 e16ij5yr1\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2019\/10\/27\/us\/politics\/27DC-prexy9\/27DC-prexy9-threeByTwoSmallAt2X-v2.jpg\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-2b3w4o e16ij5yr6\">\n<div class=\"css-i9gxme e16ij5yr4\">\n<div class=\"css-1j8dw05 e16ij5yr2\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">Watching the Raid Was Like a Movie, the President Said. Except There Was No Live Audio.<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"><time class=\"css-x7rtpa e16638kd0\" datetime=\"2019-10-27T19:39:47-04:00\">Oct. 27, 2019<\/time><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1vm5oi9 e16ij5yr0\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"css-32rbo2 e16ij5yr1\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2019\/10\/27\/world\/27dc-video\/27dc-video-threeByTwoSmallAt2X.jpg\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-2b3w4o e16ij5yr6\">\n<div class=\"css-i9gxme e16ij5yr4\">\n<div class=\"css-1j8dw05 e16ij5yr2\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">With al-Baghdadi Raid, Trump Makes the Made-for-TV Announcement He Has Long Wanted<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"><time class=\"css-x7rtpa e16638kd0\" datetime=\"2019-10-27T16:09:03-04:00\">Oct. 27, 2019<\/time><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1vm5oi9 e16ij5yr0\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"css-32rbo2 e16ij5yr1\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2019\/10\/27\/multimedia\/27dc-trump\/merlin_163406802_b6981f10-fbbd-4c71-829b-d126f611b85b-threeByTwoSmallAt2X.jpg\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bottom-of-article\">\n<div class=\"css-1ubp8k9\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-wg1cha\">\n<div class=\"css-19hdyf3 e1e7j8ap0\">\n<div>\n<p><em>Peter Baker is the chief White House correspondent and has covered the last four presidents for The Times and The Washington Post. He also is the author of five books, most recently \u201cImpeachment: An American History.\u201d <span class=\"css-4w91ra\"><a class=\"css-1rj8to8\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/peterbakernyt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"css-0\">@<\/span>peterbakernyt<\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Eric Schmitt is a senior writer who has traveled the world covering terrorism and national security. He was also the Pentagon correspondent. A member of the Times staff since 1983, he has shared three Pulitzer Prizes. <span class=\"css-4w91ra\"><a class=\"css-1rj8to8\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/EricSchmittNYT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"css-0\">@<\/span>EricSchmittNYT<\/a><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/11\/01\/us\/politics\/trump-isis-leader-baghdadi.html\">The New York Times<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Peter Baker and Eric Schmitt, White Hose Memo, Nov. 1. 2019 President Trump offered a vivid account of the ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi \u201ccrying and screaming\u201d in the final minutes before his death. The only problem: No one else knows what he\u2019s talking about. WASHINGTON \u2014 It was a vivid scene worthy of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1001004,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[53],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8576"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1001004"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8576"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8576\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8577,"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8576\/revisions\/8577"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8576"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8576"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8576"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}