{"id":8827,"date":"2019-12-14T07:02:08","date_gmt":"2019-12-14T15:02:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/?p=8827"},"modified":"2019-12-14T07:02:08","modified_gmt":"2019-12-14T15:02:08","slug":"the-big-question-for-democrats-on-impeachment-now-that-its-happening-the-washington-post","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/worldcampaign.net\/?p=8827","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The big question for Democrats on impeachment, now that it\u2019s happening&#8221;, The Washington Post"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By Aaron Blake, The Fix, Dec.14. 2019<\/p>\n<p><em>Impeachment won\u2019t remove Trump. Here\u2019s what will matter next.<\/em><\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"pointer inline-flex\">\n<div class=\"btn btn-md dn db-ns btn-white ml-lg mb-lg addlist-onclick\" data-qa=\"addtolist\">\n<div class=\"teaser-content\">\n<section>\n<div>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">For the fourth time in American history on Friday, members of Congress voted in favor of impeaching a president. And next week, the full House will likely vote for just the third time to officially impeach one.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">So where does this leave us, and what lies ahead politically?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">The big spoiler alert here is that President Trump is not going to be removed from office, barring some kind of major new revelation. But that doesn\u2019t mean the whole thing doesn\u2019t matter. As the 2016 election showed us, even a slight shift in the electorate that could result from the impeachment proceedings could change who our next president is. If impeachment helps Democrats move the needle by a couple of points with swing voters, that makes Trump\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/2019\/12\/11\/biden-holds-big-lead-over-trump-with-key-demographic-cynics\/?tid=lk_inline_manual_4\" target=\"_blank\">already-difficult reelection math<\/a>significantly more so; if Republicans can convince Trump\u2019s base that this was yet another overzealous <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2018\/11\/07\/gop-credits-kavanaugh-effect-for-senate-wins-against-red-state-democrats.html\" target=\"_blank\">Brett Kavanaugh-like hatchet job<\/a>, maybe that gives Trump a much-needed turnout edge.\\Part of what will determine that is the actual votes. Democrats have designs on getting at least one or two Senate Republicans to vote to remove Trump, but there seems to be a real chance that Democrats lose some of their own members in both the House and the Senate, while Republicans stay united in both.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is so confident of the latter that he is predicting as much. Asked Thursday by Sean Hannity whether there would be any Senate GOP defections, he said, \u201cI doubt it.\u201d As for the House, he was outright predicting at least a couple of Democratic defections and yet more GOP unity. \u201cIt looks to me over in the House the Republicans seem to be solid, and the Democrats seem to be divided,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"remainder-content\">\n<section>\n<div>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">Calling one or two Democratic defections \u201cdivided\u201d is certainly overstating it, but it seems likely the party will at least be more divided than the GOP.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">We\u2019ve already had two House Democrats vote against formalizing the inquiry \u2014 Reps. Collin C. Peterson (D-Minn.) and Jeff Van Drew (D-N.J.) \u2014 and Democrats are putting out word that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/house-democrats-brace-for-some-defections-among-moderates-on-impeachment-of-trump\/2019\/12\/11\/8698a398-1c29-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_12\" target=\"_blank\">other vulnerable and moderate Democrats could also vote no<\/a> on impeachment. According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/graphics\/2019\/politics\/house-impeachment-votes\/?tid=lk_inline_manual_12\" target=\"_blank\">The Washington Post\u2019s whip count<\/a>, more than five dozen Democrats have yet to commit. By contrast, only one Republican \u2014 retiring Rep. Francis Rooney (R-Fla.) \u2014 has even left open the possibility of voting for impeachment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">In the Senate, it\u2019s conventional wisdom that the most likely GOP votes for removal would be from Sens. Mitt Romney (Utah), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Susan Collins (Maine), the last of whom is up for reelection next year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">I\u2019m increasingly skeptical any of them will vote for removal, though. Removal is a higher bar than impeachment, for one thing. And it\u2019s not difficult to see how the likes of Romney and Collins would defend voting to acquit. It could be something to the effect of: \u201cWhat the president did was wrong, but removal from office has never happened before. Democrats haven\u2019t even accused Trump of a crime, and the evidence didn\u2019t directly implicate him in the Ukraine quid pro quo.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">On the Democratic side, you\u2019ve got Sens. Joe Manchin III (W.Va.) and Doug Jones (Ala.), who both come from very pro-Trump states and the latter of whom faces a reelection campaign. And if there\u2019s one state that could sum up how this turns out, it might be Arizona. Democrats should be hopeful of picking off Sen. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.) in what is an election year for her, but the more likely crossover vote <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azcentral.com\/story\/opinion\/op-ed\/laurieroberts\/2019\/12\/13\/arizona-sen-kyrsten-sinema-vote-acquit-trump-impeachment-trial\/2638531001\/\" target=\"_blank\">might be from Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">So let\u2019s game this out. Say Republicans stay in lockstep with Trump, but six to 10 House Democrats and two Senate Democrats cross over. Suddenly, this becomes something the Democrats weren\u2019t even united on \u2014 something that was deemed to be too drastic for some of their most vulnerable members.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">That may not be terribly surprising, given the severity of the punishment involved, but it would certainly be viewed as a less-than-ideal outcome for the Democrats. It becomes easier for Trump to argue this was an overcooked idea if it\u2019s too much even for several Democrats.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">I\u2019ve been skeptical from the start <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/2019\/05\/22\/why-democrats-pundits-shouldnt-assume-impeachment-will-backfire\/?tid=lk_inline_manual_22\" target=\"_blank\">that impeachment would backfire<\/a> on Democrats, and I don\u2019t necessarily think these defections would mean that would be the case. This will all be wrapped up more than nine months before the 2020 general election, which is a long time for people to forget about it or focus on other things.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">But there was certainly a reason party leaders hesitated \u2014 whether because they didn\u2019t want to mess up their already-good chances or because they really did worry it could hurt them. It took them a long time to commit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">Since then, they\u2019ve decided to go with a shorter process and opted not to try to get more key witnesses like former national security adviser John Bolton or more documents via court cases. They\u2019ve decided not to accuse Trump of statutory crimes <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/2019\/12\/10\/democrats-ditch-bribery-mueller-trump-impeachment-articles-is-that-smart-play\/?tid=lk_inline_manual_24\" target=\"_blank\">like bribery and obstruction of justice<\/a> (that latter of which would revive the Mueller investigation\u2019s findings). They\u2019ve said they had to move forward quickly not because of the looming election or any other practical political reasons, but because they worry that Trump will continue this behavior if he isn\u2019t held in check.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\">But what message will Trump take away from this if not even Democrats are united behind the idea that what he did was impeachable and worthy of removal from office? It\u2019s a dicey set of circumstances for a party whose leaders had resisted impeachment for so long, and there are no guarantees that their decision to relent will work out for the better.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font--body font-copy color-gray-darkest ma-0 pad-bottom-md undefined\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/2019\/12\/14\/big-question-democrats-impeachment-now-that-its-happening\/\">The Washington Post<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Aaron Blake, The Fix, Dec.14. 2019 Impeachment won\u2019t remove Trump. Here\u2019s what will matter next. For the fourth time in American history on Friday, members of Congress voted in favor of impeaching a president. And next week, the full House will likely vote for just the third time to officially impeach one. 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